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<title>Agreeing To The Cloud (Denise Howell)</title>
<link>http://betweenlawyers.corante.com/archives/2007/06/28/agreeing_to_the_cloud.php</link>
<description><![CDATA[<p>As more and better communication and collaboration functions move to the Web (under non-negotiated, vendor-centric terms of use), what are our obligations as both tech- and ethics-savvy lawyers?  I for one am not about to give up Gmail.  So, what's the best practice?  <br />
<ul><br />
<ol>Shun Web services, you simply can't control the data?</ol><br />
<ol>Use Web services only when you have specific, confidentiality and reliability guaranteeing service level agreements?</ol><br />
<ol>Use Web services liberally, but acquaint yourself with the applicable terms of use and make sure clients are amenable?</ol><br />
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I lean toward #3.  You?</p>]]></description>
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<title>Yet Another Use For Social Media:  Narrowing The Defendant List (Denise Howell)</title>
<link>http://betweenlawyers.corante.com/archives/2007/05/21/yet_another_use_for_social_media_narrowing_the_defendant_list.php</link>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Blogger co-founder <a href="http://twitter.com/ev/statuses/73035692">Evan Williams Twitters</a>:  &quot;Dear person from law firm who wants to find the right person to threaten to sue at Blogger.com: Nope, not me.&quot;</p>]]></description>
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<dc:subject>Blink &amp;#8250;</dc:subject>
<dc:date>2007-05-21T18:07:47-05:00</dc:date>
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<title>In Like With Your Lawyer (Denise Howell)</title>
<link>http://betweenlawyers.corante.com/archives/2007/04/23/in_like_with_your_lawyer.php</link>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I was listening yesterday to the terrific <a href="http://www.calacanis.com/2007/04/14/calacaniscast-24-beta/">CalacanisCast interview with Dan Albritton</a> of <a href="http://iminlikewithyou.com/protected">iminlikewithyou.com</a>, and was struck yet again by the way indicia of reputation, trustworthiness, and credibility are shifting and quantifying.  I'm not sure what tomorrow's <a href="http://www.martindale.com/xp/Martindale/Lawyer_Locator/Search_Lawyer_Locator/rating_info.xml">AV rating</a> will look like, but I suspect it will be less subjective, more egalitarian, and more task-oriented.]]></description>
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<dc:subject>Practice of Law</dc:subject>
<dc:date>2007-04-23T14:36:34-05:00</dc:date>
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<title>New Bar Blogging Policy Emphasizes Cluefulness, Participation (Denise Howell)</title>
<link>http://betweenlawyers.corante.com/archives/2006/11/15/new_bar_blogging_policy_emphasizes_cluefulness_participation.php</link>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Attorney and Chicago area blogger <a href="http://mhedayat.wetpaint.com/">Mazyar M. Hedayat</a> has drafted and released a <a href="http://dcbalpm.wordpress.com/blogging-policies/">blogging policy</a> for the <a href="http://www.dcba.org/">DuPage County Bar Association</a>, &quot;as well as any committee, firm, or bar association thinking of establishing blogs or wikis in order to foster communication with their members or the public.&quot;  It is a concise nine points in length, and I like every one of them:</p>

<p> #1 know and follow bar association guidelines for conduct, as well as the rules of good legal writing. no need to use Blue Book citations, but be accurate in your posts: others will look to them as a source of information and news, if not actual research.</p>

<p>#2 be mindful of what you write. remember that you have an audience.</p>

<p>#3 identify yourself and write in first person.  make it clear that you are not necessarily speaking for the bar association as a whole. be sure to disclose any information necessary to keep your statements from being misleading. use the following disclaimer on your blog or wiki with respect to all posts:</p>

<center><em>unless indicated to the contrary posts do not reflect the views of the bar association, its members, executives, staff, board, or committees, and are the opinion of the writer</em></center>

<p>#4 respect copyright and fair use. do not plagiarize. give credit where due by citing to the author of a statement or passage.</p>

<p>#5 do not reveal confidential information that could result in liability to yourself, your committee, other bar association members, or the bar association itself.</p>

<p>#6 do not comment on active cases or client matters by name except with the approval of those referred to in the post.</p>

<p>#7  do not use ethnic slurs, insults, or obscenity. Avoid writing about inflammatory topics solely to pique prurient interests.</p>

<p>#8 always try to add to a discussion constructively and ultimately to add value. do not let your ego get in the way. you are here for the good of the bar association after all.</p>

<p>#9 have fun. a blog or wiki can be loads of fun and a terrific way to share the best of your committee with the world. </p>]]></description>
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<dc:subject>Blogging Policies</dc:subject>
<dc:date>2006-11-15T17:42:16-05:00</dc:date>
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<title>Disturbing Study on Treatment of Minority Female Lawyers (Dennis M. Kennedy)</title>
<link>http://betweenlawyers.corante.com/archives/2006/11/10/disturbing_study_on_treatment_of_minority_female_lawyers.php</link>
<description><![CDATA[<p>It's nearly 2007. I find this <a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1163066717588">article about a recent ABA study on women of color in law firms</a> to be especially disturbing. It also confirms stories I have heard.</p>

<p>What do you think? </p>]]></description>
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<dc:subject>Blink &amp;#8250;</dc:subject>
<dc:date>2006-11-10T08:40:49-05:00</dc:date>
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<title>Law 2.0: The Outsourcing Component (Dennis M. Kennedy)</title>
<link>http://betweenlawyers.corante.com/archives/2006/10/30/law_20_the_outsourcing_component.php</link>
<description><![CDATA[<p>It was recorded a while back, but I wanted to recommend the excellent discussion on legal technology and outsourcing you will find on the podcast featuring <a href="http://www.prismlegal.com">Ron Friedmann</a> and <a href="http://www.microlaw.com">Ross Kodner</a> that's part of the Coast to Coast podcast series. It's called "<a href="http://legaltalknetwork.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=111">Legal Technology: A Doubled-edged Sword?</a>"</p>

<p>Ron and Ross are on top of their games and you'll get some fascinating insights into the ways law firms are using outsourcing and insourcing. We talk about <a href="http://betweenlawyers.corante.com/archives/law_20/">Law 2.0</a> on this blog on a regular basis and this podcast will give you some practical ideas about what Law 2.0 might mean and what it might look like.<br />
</p>]]></description>
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<dc:subject>Law 2.0</dc:subject>
<dc:date>2006-10-30T21:51:00-05:00</dc:date>
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<title>Julicial Eloquence (Denise Howell)</title>
<link>http://betweenlawyers.corante.com/archives/2006/10/16/julicial_eloquence.php</link>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Julie Hilden of FindLaw's Writ neatly pummels into dust any credible argument for regulating lawyer blogs as advertising:  <a href="http://writ.news.findlaw.com/hilden/20061016.html">Are Lawyers' Blogs Protected by the First Amendment? Why State Bar Regulation of Law Blogs As "Advertising" Would Be Elitist and Reductive</a>.  "If we want the best arguments to win in court, why shouldn't we let the best bloggers win clients, too? State bars should affirmatively encourage legal blogs, rather than chilling them by regulating them as if they were no more significant than a banner on the back of a bus."</p>]]></description>
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<dc:subject>Blink &amp;#8250;</dc:subject>
<dc:date>2006-10-16T18:27:55-05:00</dc:date>
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<title>VLFs Should Embrace VRM (Denise Howell)</title>
<link>http://betweenlawyers.corante.com/archives/2006/09/06/vlfs_should_embrace_vrm.php</link>
<description><![CDATA[<p>This might sound a bit acronym-soupy and cryptic, but the proverbial lightbulb is over my head at the moment, and I think it will have more impact if you attempt to understand why yourself rather than having me explain.  So first, please listen to the current episode of the Gillmor Gang:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.podshow.com/shows/?mode=detail&episode_id=24321">Part 1</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.podshow.com/shows/?mode=detail&episode_id=24351">Part 2</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.podshow.com/shows/?mode=detail&episode_id=24354">Part 3</a></li>
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<p>Then:  consider how a <a href="http://betweenlawyers.corante.com/archives/2006/07/12/what_would_a_real_virtual_law_firm_look_like.php">virtual law firm</a> (or a very forward thinking conventional one) might be in the perfect position to leapfrog ahead by eliminating the CRM (customer relationship management) line item from its technology and marketing budgets, and instead adopting a client driven, &quot;vendor relationship management&quot; approach to business development.</p> ]]></description>
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<dc:subject>Law 2.0</dc:subject>
<dc:date>2006-09-06T18:05:26-05:00</dc:date>
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<title>Rate a Federal Judge (Ernest Svenson)</title>
<link>http://betweenlawyers.corante.com/archives/2006/08/28/rate_a_federal_judge.php</link>
<description><![CDATA[<p>A new website called <a href="http://www.therobingroom.com/Default.aspx">The Robing Room allows attorneys (and litigants) to make assessments about federal judges.</a>  There is no secure verification process, and the assessments are anonymous.   So there is definitely some opportunity for mischief that would undermine the credibility of this rating service.  Still, it will be interesting to see if the site catches on with lawyers and what effect it will have if it does.</p>]]></description>
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<dc:subject>Practice of Law</dc:subject>
<dc:date>2006-08-28T13:39:00-05:00</dc:date>
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<title>Rule #1:  Don&apos;t Be Stupid (Denise Howell)</title>
<link>http://betweenlawyers.corante.com/archives/2006/08/23/rule_1_dont_be_stupid.php</link>
<description><![CDATA[<p>There's an <a href="http://www.apcstart.com/site/dwarne/2006/08/1104/unlock-work-internet-or-risk-losing-staff-microsoft">excellent article at APC Magazine</a>, warning businesses who lock down their Internet access that they're in danger of losing employees.  But that's not all they're in danger of losing.  There's a <em>reason</em> &quot;digital natives&quot; are so reliant on the 'Net they will resort to elaborate and policy-violating workarounds:  they get things done there.  They knowledge-gather.  They connect.  They market.  They produce.  What's at stake for businesses who fail to grok this goes far beyond recruiting and employee retention.  I give any such outfit five years of soulless survival, at the outside.  (Via <a href="http://www.techmeme.com/060823/p64#a060823p64">Techmeme</a>)]]></description>
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<dc:subject>Law Practice Management</dc:subject>
<dc:date>2006-08-23T19:59:21-05:00</dc:date>
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<title>Attention, Please (Denise Howell)</title>
<link>http://betweenlawyers.corante.com/archives/2006/06/29/attention_please.php</link>
<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.attentiontrust.org/blog">Ed Batista</a>, <a href="http://www.attentiontrust.org/node/341">Element 55: Attention for Attorneys</a>:  &quot;'[A]ttention' isn't just a geeky buzzword anymore, and attention services providing tangible value in the real world are here, even if their own developers aren't yet using the term.&quot;  Bonus link:  <a href="http://attentiontrust.org/node/340">Attention Behind the Firewall</a>.</p>]]></description>
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<dc:subject>Blink &amp;#8250;</dc:subject>
<dc:date>2006-06-29T19:38:35-05:00</dc:date>
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<title>Book Early (Denise Howell)</title>
<link>http://betweenlawyers.corante.com/archives/2006/06/19/book_early.php</link>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Corporate blogging aficionista <a href="http://www.blogwriteforceos.com/">Debbie Weil</a> is poised to unleash her <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1591841259/qid=1149194483/sr=2-1/ref=melmckinney-20/104-2864818-8403959?s=books&amp;v=glance&amp;n=283155">Corporate Blogging Book</a> on August 3.  In the meantime she's offering freebies to tease and entice &mdash the complete first chapter, called &quot;Top 20 Questions About Corporate Blogging,&quot; and, if you <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1591841259/qid=1149194483/sr=2-1/ref=melmckinney-20/104-2864818-8403959?s=books&amp;v=glance&amp;n=283155">preorder at Amazon</a>, the book's chart highlights &mdash; which you can check out at <a href="http://www.thecorporatebloggingbook.com/">the book's site</a>.</p>]]></description>
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<dc:subject>Blink &amp;#8250;</dc:subject>
<dc:date>2006-06-19T14:11:17-05:00</dc:date>
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<title>If Lawyers Can Advertise in New York, They Can Advertise Anywhere  .  .  .  But They Probably Can&apos;t (Dennis M. Kennedy)</title>
<link>http://betweenlawyers.corante.com/archives/2006/06/15/if_lawyers_can_advertise_in_new_york_they_can_advertise_anywhere_but_they_probably_cant.php</link>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Anyone else flummoxed by the proposed new advertising rules for lawyers in New York? Take a close look at this <a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1150275921219">Law.com article</a> and <a href="http://www.nycourts.gov/rules/proposedamendments.shtml">the text of the proposed amendments to the rules</a> and let me know what you think.</p>

<p>As I read the rules, EVERY public communication is an advertisement and any communication that isn't an advertisement is probably a solicitation. That should cover almost every communication between lawyers and the public.</p>

<p>In either case, a shocking number of draconian and micro-managing rules will apply.  </p>

<p>I'll let others consider the free speech and other aspects of these rules, but I'd love to see some marketing experts analyze what the actual marketing effectiveness of any communication that satisifes these rules will have.  My tentative conclusion is that if an "advertisement" or "solicitation" might in even a limited way be effective, it will violate the rules.  If it has even been recommended as an effective form of marketing,  it will probably cause you trouble.</p>

<p>This seems to be another in a series of recent regulatory efforts by state bar regulators that seem woefully out of touch with the Internet era.  </p>

<p>Should you care?  Well, consider this quote from the rules: "A lawyer not admitted in this jurisdiction is also subject to the disciplinary authority of this state if the lawyer provides or solicits any legal services in this state." Take a quick look at the definition of "computer-accessed communication" in the amended rules and consider how a website or blog located anywhere is likely to be treated by the plain language of these proposed rules.</p>

<p>Once again, we see a concern about a  limited problem being turned into wide-ranging regulations that will have enormous unintended consequences and seem designed primarily to protect established, successful practices from new competition. </p>

<p>Are we seeing the last gasp of an attempt to apply 19th century concepts to a 21st century world, or will lawyers be the only group able to roll back the changes the Internet has brought to the rest of the world? I'm  betting on the Internet,  but I'm quite curious about what others think about these proposed rules and others like them. It might be a good discussion topic for a summer Friday. </p>]]></description>
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<dc:subject>Legal Ethics and Advertising</dc:subject>
<dc:date>2006-06-15T22:54:21-05:00</dc:date>
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<title>At the Frontier of Alternative Dispute Resolution (???) (Dennis M. Kennedy)</title>
<link>http://betweenlawyers.corante.com/archives/2006/06/12/at_the_frontier_of_alternative_dispute_resolution_.php</link>
<description><![CDATA[<p>There  is a growing discussion of the relevance of our current court system and the ways lawyers want to use it in the Internet era. More accurately, there is a concern about whether the system continues to be  workable. </p>

<p><a href="http://www.ernietheattorney.net/ernie_the_attorney/2006/06/next_time_the_j.html">Ernie points</a> to a  recent  (and  some might  call  mind-boggling)  ruling of  a  federal judge  that requires the opposing attorneys in  a  case to settle their latest dispute with a game of "rock, paper, scissors."</p>

<p>Ernie does a nice job of explaining the basis point of our court system and concludes, succinctly, that:</p>

<blockquote>Hell, when a federal judge has to tell the attorneys to use a child's game to resolve their disputes then you know the system is completely broken.</blockquote>

<p>I'm willing to be persuaded otherwise, but I completely agree with Ernie. This isn't Law 2.0. </p>

<p>Where do we go from here?  What client  is going to be happy with this kind of ruling and the behavior that leads to it? Will lawyers chuckle at this and similar stories as they reap the unintended consequences of breaking the court system?  If  lawyers make a joke of these matters, why should we expect others to take us or the court system seriously? Consider <a href="http://www.ernietheattorney.net/ernie_the_attorney/2006/06/next_time_the_j.html">Ernie's comments</a> carefully.</p>

<p>More on the underlying story <a href="http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1149843918497">here</a>.</p>]]></description>
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<dc:subject>Provocations</dc:subject>
<dc:date>2006-06-12T15:02:24-05:00</dc:date>
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<title>Mission: Value Billing (Dennis M. Kennedy)</title>
<link>http://betweenlawyers.corante.com/archives/2006/06/12/mission_value_billing.php</link>
<description><![CDATA[<p>From  the <a href="http://accounting.smartpros.com/">SmartPros newsletter</a>:</p>

<p><a href="http://accounting.smartpros.com/x53407.xml">More great insights and ideas from value billing guru Ron Baker</a> will help you in your next discussion about billable hours and may help you make your clients happier. Very  interesting  comments on the future of pricing approaches  for professional services.</p>

<p>The money quote:</p>

<blockquote>He also mentioned the war for talent, and warned that firms that stick to the timesheet method will have a difficult time recruiting young talent. "The young kids should be given the chance to shake things up and ask 'why are we doing this?'" he said. "These kids are knowledge workers and understand the value that they bring. Yet we're treating them like union employees, making them worry about being paid by the hour."</blockquote>]]></description>
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<dc:subject>Blink &amp;#8250;</dc:subject>
<dc:date>2006-06-12T14:26:22-05:00</dc:date>
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