Denise Howell is a seasoned appellate and intellectual property litigator based in Los Angeles. Denise writes one of the first and most popular law-related blogs, Bag and Baggage, coined the term "blawg" and helped pioneer podcasting for lawyers. Microcontent obsessed since 2001, she is frequently quoted in the media on legal issues involving intellectual property and technology law. "Sound Policy" is Denise's show at IT Conversations, and it's also what she hopes results from the briefs she submits to court. Email Denise at dhowell@gmail.com.
Dennis Kennedy is a computer lawyer and legal technology expert based in St. Louis, Missouri. An award-winning author, a frequent speaker and a widely-read blogger, he has more than 300 publications on legal, technology and Internet topics, many of which are collected in his e-books. Dennis has been described as someone who knows almost every rock song in existence and, more importantly, how they apply to technology and law. Email Dennis at his gmail address.
Tom Mighell is Senior Counsel and Litigation Technology Support Coordinator at Cowles & Thompson in Dallas. He has published the Internet Legal Research Weekly newsletter since 2000 and blogged about the Internet and legal technology at Inter Alia since August of 2002. With Tom's singing, Ernie on guitar and Dennis' encylopedic knowledge of rock music, we may have the beginnings of a good band, if this whole blog thing doesn't work out. Email Tom at tmighell@swbell.net.
Marty Schwimmer left a partnership in the largest trademark practice in the world and founded Schwimmer Mitchell, a full-service IP micro-boutique in Westchester County, New York, where he represents owners of famous and not yet famous trademarks. He founded The Trademark Blog, the first IP law blog and the one with the most pictures. He is the first to come in and the last to leave in his firm. Email Marty at marty@schwimmerlegal.com.
Ernest Svenson practices law with a mid-sized law firm in New Orleans, specializing in business-related lawsuits. Most of his practice takes place in federal court, especially the Eastern District. He is best known for his weblog Ernie the Attorney, which he started as an experiment. Like many experiments it got out of control. Nevertheless, he continues to practice law and, occasionally,
to seek enlightenment. Email Ernest at esvenson@gmail.com.
About this blog
Between Lawyers provides just-in-time group commentary on the issues
raised when technology, culture and the law intersect. We take you
behind the firewalls and conference room doors to show you how
experienced lawyers deal with these issues and help you prepare for
the new challenges we all face. For more, see our introductory post.
Yet Another Use For Social Media: Narrowing The Defendant List
Blogger co-founder Evan Williams Twitters: "Dear person from law firm who wants to find the right person to threaten to sue at Blogger.com: Nope, not me."
In one of our occasional posts on what goes on behind the scenes at Between Lawyers in which we open the door on how lawyers really discuss legal issues of the day, here's the very learned discussion that ensued:
Dennis (note that Dennis did not realize that Denise had already posted on this topic):"Here's an interesting list on IP extremes [from Mother Jones mag], but when you read the blurb about John Cage below, it makes you wonder whether Marty might have been the lawyer in the case."
The blurb: "FOR INCLUDING a 60-second piece of silence on their album, the Planets were threatened with a lawsuit by the estate of composer John Cage, which said they’d ripped off his silent work 4’33”. The Planets countered that the estate failed to specify which 60 of the 273 seconds in Cage’s piece had been pilfered."
Marty: "I've never heard one of Cage's actual pieces. Are they 'dead air' or is the point that you hear the ambient noises (musicians sitting quietly)?"
Dennis: "Well, 4'33" is an anomalous work in Cage's canon - an intellectual witticism and a response of sorts to critics who thought his music was so darn weird. The answer to your question on the piece is, therefore, "yes." The intention of the silence would be to force you to reconsider what music, sound, silence and performance really are - a riff on Magritte's "Ceci n'est pas une Pipe" painting. It's kind of one trick pony, though, because you can only do something like that once. In its context, then, the lawyer's response to the lawsuit is the perfect artistic response and, in my mind, perhaps the artistic zenith of the legal profession in the last however many hundreds of years. Another contemporary analogy, of course, would be Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music. Excuse me, while I go crank that up and meditate on these artistic thoughts. Just my two cents."
Marty: "I guess my question really was, how did Cage's lawyers know that it was Cage's silence at all? Agreed that it is a truly great response."
Denise: (who noticed that neither Dennis nor Marty had been aware of her post on the topic) "Given that I blogged the Mother Jones List on BL, PLEASE blog at least some of the delightful context set forth in these emails there as well. (And don't be callin' ME no one trick pony, because there obviously are no limits to how many times I can persuasively urge you/all to "blog it.")"
But whose? "YouTube co-founder Chad Hurley says in some cases, the same company is both uploading video and ordering YouTube to take it down. 'There's been a few examples of marketing departments uploading content directly to the site, while on the other side of the company their attorney is demanding we remove this content.'" From Cory Bergman, via Boing Boing.
I just tried to email a document to Marty, but of course sent the email without the document, as we all inevitably do. (Please tell me it's not just me.) In response, Marty offered a would-be — correction, would be HUGE — t-shirt slogan: THIS TIME WITH ATTACHMENT
I greatly enjoyed Jeremy Wagstaff's carefully annotated and hyperlinked post called "The New Cliche: "It's the Wikipedia of . . ." and wanted to join in the cliche-creating game.
For Wikipedia fans, I do realize that this blog and Wikipedia have very little in common, except both Wikipedia and Between Lawyers credit Denise Howell with coining the word, "blawg."
All right -- as they say in poker, I'll call your poetry, and raise you a song. Unlike Denise, Ernie and Dennis, I'm no poet; but I do love to sing. My usual outlet is Bar None, a yearly show we put on for charity -- here are a couple of tidbits from the show:
First, a pretty tame picture of me singing "Always Billing Time" (to the tune of "For the Longest Time") at this year's show.
Next, here's a link to a song we recorded a few years ago -- it's a barbershop quartet number called How Could You Believe Me?
Hopefully I haven't just compromised any remaining integrity I had around here.
'Twas the night before Zeitgeist, when all through the fog,
Not a creature was stirring, not even a blawg.
The shingles were hung on the Web with such care,
In hope that Saint BusDev soon would be there.
When out in the Ninth there arose such a clatter,
(And not just 'cause the Supremes think us Mad as a Hatter).
On over to Howard's I clicked (without Flash),
Tore into the case, and turned down the mash.
It took a few moments, though I'm far from deaf,
for the file to load up ('twas a cursed PDF).
When, what to my wondering eyes should appear,
A lustrous dissent! And the word "blawg" so clear!
With a little old author, so lively and hot,
I knew in a moment Kozinski I'd got.
More legal than eagles, his sources they came,
And he chided and scolded and called them by name!
"Through these lengthy proceedings, this judge, if he's that,
based his actions on something right out of a hat.
Not a case, not a statute, not treatise nor tome,
Was cited to justify where he did roam."
As questionable authorities before the wild hurricane fly,
when they meet with sound precedent, up to the sky,
So up to the house top, and on through the smog:
"Not a law review article — not even a blawg!"
And then, in a twinkling, I heard in the land,
the wailing and weeping of Unlearned Hand.
As I drew up my head, and was turning around,
I knew I had run the cause right to the ground.
Oh why, Judge Kozinski? Your timing does blow! Just 400, you know, will be all who will go!
A bundle of blawgers would give their eyeteeth,
to hear Larry and Barry and Sergey — (no Keith?).
Our hopes — how you've dashed them! The world now — how chary!
Of those at the end of your list they'll be wary.
Your nod to our presence, though lovely and fine,
Has put us, no bones, at the end of the line,
Of writers whose words perhaps warrant belief.
Your list does encircle our PageRanks like a wreath.
It has a broad reach, near as broad as the telly,
And leaves little blawgs in a heap sort of smelly.
We were clubby and pumped, a right jolly old meme,
With more juice when we posted than it might have seemed.
But a blink of your eye and a shake of your head,
Soon gave us to know we had much left to dread.
For together with those who think "blawg" is distasteful,
(And those who think words not in Webster's are wasteful),
I'm afraid that the finger is all that we've got,
From Google, re Zeitgeist — invited, we're not.
(Rick or Glenn, if you are, I just don't want to hear it.
There's already too much that's crushing my spirit.)
But I heard them exclaim, as they blawged late at night,
"If you're going to dis us, then link us — all right??"
We all know how much money Jane Fonda made with her special exercise videos back in the 80's. Since then there have been a host of other exercise programs that have successfully emerged. Most of these programs have lost luster, leading many to conclude that the fitness market is saturated and no longer worth examining.
I think, however, we are overlooking a lucrative niche market: lawyers. In particular, litigators. These are people who lead highly stressful lives where being combative and ill-tempered is pretty much the norm. So what kind of exercise regimen could be devised to help these tense souls dissipate all that internalized aggression?
I'm thinking 'some form of stretching, coupled with the indiscriminate use of automatic weapons.'