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June 2, 2006

Like Hot Dogs on Sticks: A Response from Dennis

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Posted by Dennis M. Kennedy

The phrase "the interstices of ivory tower and pop culture" that Denise quoted in the previous post reminded me of the core concept and mission of "Between Lawyers" (see "About this Blog") at bottom of left column of our blog. "Between Lawyers provides just-in-time group commentary on the issues raised when technology, culture and the law intersect."

Then I read the following in the article Denise linked to:

"From the fistful of judges (including Richard Posner) who maintain regular blogs, to the vast and growing number of law professors and law students who find the time to post daily, it's clear that the real bones and guts and sinew of the national conversation is happening online, and not in print."

What, what, what? What about the practicing lawyers with blogs who try on a daily basis to translate legal issues and legal developments into practical explanations and a conversation that we can all understand.

Looks like we have more work to do at the Between Lawyers blog, RethinkIP, Evan Schaeffer's Legal Underground and the many other lawyer and law librarian blogs that are changing the dynamic and the way that the law is discussed today before we get our message out there.

Or maybe the message really is getting out there already. If Marty is getting a million hits a month talking about trademark law, I submit that lawyer bloggers are talking about law in ways that people want to hear it talked about.

Look, I like the law professor blogs and law student blogs, but ultimately what we all really want to find are practical answers to real-word legal questions, issues and problems that face us.

Check out Denise's recent post "Apple v. Does Decision Issued" if you want to see where I think blogging is leading us in the ways we discuss breaking legal developments.

I enjoyed Lithwick's article and agree with her main premise about the value of law-related blogs and what they add to the discussion of legal issues, but I'm surprised by the over-focus on law professor blogs and the invisibilty in the articles of the categories where most of the law-related blogs live.

Interstices are OK for some things, but there are good reasons we called this blog "Between Lawyers" rather than "Jurisprudential Interstices."

What do you think?

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1. Eh Nonymous on June 6, 2006 8:47 AM writes...

Wow, you're right, Dennis.

Dahlia is sooo witty and entertaining - but she's badly skewed towards judges - an A3G tendency? - and maybe the (sometimes anonymous) law students whose blawgs are so reckless. Or in Jeremy Blachman's case, just funny.

It was Denise who coined "blawg," it's practicing lawyer-academics who bring the big guns of personal experience plus informed opinion (Bernstein, Volokh, Epstein, Lessig, Hasen - does Chemerinsky blog?) into meaningful focus.

I mean, theory's nice, but we could read Legal Theory blog all day long, and not get much light shed on what's really up at SCOTUS. Or in our local district courts. Or on the street. For that we need CrimLaw, and DUIBlog, and the various appellate law blogs, and TTABlog, and the host of others you mention and refer to.

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