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Denise Howell is a seasoned appellate and intellectual property litigator based in Los Angeles. Denise writes one of the first and most popular law-related blogs, Bag and Baggage, coined the term "blawg" and helped pioneer podcasting for lawyers. Microcontent obsessed since 2001, she is frequently quoted in the media on legal issues involving intellectual property and technology law. "Sound Policy" is Denise's show at IT Conversations, and it's also what she hopes results from the briefs she submits to court. Email Denise at

Dennis Kennedy is a computer lawyer and legal technology expert based in St. Louis, Missouri. An award-winning author, a frequent speaker and a widely-read blogger, he has more than 300 publications on legal, technology and Internet topics, many of which are collected in his e-books. Dennis has been described as someone who knows almost every rock song in existence and, more importantly, how they apply to technology and law. Email Dennis at his gmail address.

Tom Mighell is Senior Counsel and Litigation Technology Support Coordinator at Cowles & Thompson in Dallas. He has published the Internet Legal Research Weekly newsletter since 2000 and blogged about the Internet and legal technology at Inter Alia since August of 2002. With Tom's singing, Ernie on guitar and Dennis' encylopedic knowledge of rock music, we may have the beginnings of a good band, if this whole blog thing doesn't work out. Email Tom at

Marty Schwimmer left a partnership in the largest trademark practice in the world and founded Schwimmer Mitchell, a full-service IP micro-boutique in Westchester County, New York, where he represents owners of famous and not yet famous trademarks. He founded The Trademark Blog, the first IP law blog and the one with the most pictures. He is the first to come in and the last to leave in his firm. Email Marty at

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November 7, 2005


1. Dennis on November 7, 2005 12:35 PM writes...

Thanks for the mention, Denise. Once you see how much fun it is to find metadata in other people's documents, it gets you motivated to learn the basics.

I'll second your note about the search results and how difficult it might be to make sense out of those results, which, among other things, emphasizes how difficult it has become to rely upon Google results for answers to basic questions.

It's also worht noting, as shown in the Google results, there are two completely different ways that the term "metadata" is being used these days - one in the world of KM (knowledge management) and in a more academic sense - and the other in the sense of the "hidden data" associated with documents. Unless you understand the different uses of the term, your task of finding good resources to learn about these issues can get even harder.

Finally, I like to think in terms of documents that are being worked on with other people and documents that are published to outside parties where no changes are expected. In fact, I believe it was Denise who started me thinking in those terms. If you can divide your docuements into those two categories and develop simple procedures for each type of document, you should be able to avoid most, if not all, of the standard ways to embarrass yourself on these issues.

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2. Denise Howell on November 7, 2005 4:35 PM writes...

You blame Google and I'll blame Microsoft. ;) Its apps should deal with this issue in a straightforward manner, and they don't.

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