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August 4, 2005

Why Would You Take A Sure Loser To Trial?

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Posted by Marty Schwimmer

Thank you to Ernie for pointing us to this ABA article on training trial attorneys. Read the whole thing, as they say.

There was one passage that stood out:

'. . . I would willingly - in fact, gratefully - accept any 'dog' case they had, even the sure losers, if there was some chance of going to trial . . . for several years I tried cases regularly. I lost many of the sure losers . . . "

I understand what the author means and many of us use terms like 'sure loser,' but to take a faux-naive perspective:

Ignoring the author's remark that he wanted the experience, how would you explain to a Man from Mars (or economist, or management consultant or client or professional responsiblity organization) why a rational person brings a 'sure loser' to trial?

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1. Lawgirl on August 4, 2005 6:49 PM writes...

You asked: how would you explain to a Man from Mars (or economist, or management consultant or client or professional responsiblity organization) why a rational person brings a 'sure loser' to trial?

1. No incentive to settle because the deal offered by the other side is worse than the worst you think you will do at trial. Maybe you will lose, but you will likely do better than whatever the settlement offer is.

2. Client is wrong on the law, but right on some principle that is important to him/her.

3. Client is pissed off, has gobs of money to spend and would rather spend it on your legal fees (even if it results in an adverse judgment) than on a settlement.

4. Insurance company is willing to pay?

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2. M. Sean Fosmire on August 4, 2005 6:51 PM writes...

On the plaintiff's side, a strategy of some law firms is to regularly try the losers because once or twice in every ten they will win the case.

On the defendant's side, it is regularly the case that we will try a case that we expect to lose becauase we think that it is worth a lot less than the plaintiff's attorney does. If we are right, we can count it as a "win".

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3. Michael Froomkin on August 4, 2005 9:33 PM writes...

A game-theorist (a type of economist) could be persuaded by the following tale:

"Because the client has a no-settlement policy, and believes that litigating some dogs has a valuable in terrorem effect in the long term."

The reality, more likely, assuming ethical counsel, is that the client wants to fight it and that the case is better than frivolous although not one you would expect to win.

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4. That Lawyer Dude on August 7, 2005 12:49 AM writes...

When I first started out I used to look at trying the losers as a graduate degree in trial law. I could litigate all I wanted but with the loser I'd send out my discovery and do my depo and get it on the calendar as soon as possible. In the criminal sphere I would do the same thing.My overhead was low and after a while, I became better at it and even started occasionally winning the bad case. Alas then they too started settling. I still look for cases that are tough to win once in a while. If for no other reason than to get up at bat once in a while. Money isn't (or shouldn't be) everything.

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